Hello Jennifer:
Thank you for your very helpful and detailed explanation!
I ended up using the site that Vipin provided in his message (https://galaxy.cbio.mskcc.org/tool_runner?tool_id=fml_gff2bed).
Indeed, it produced a file with 12 columns that appears to be in a reasonable bed format (including the 10th column being an integer, with the 11th and 12th column consisting of that integer number of items separated by commas).
However, I noticed that the number of lines in the file went from 183,748 (in the .gff3 file) to 11,506 (in the 12-column .bed file).
In your opinion, does this seem like a reasonable reduction in number of lines? I was not expecting that (in fact, I was expecting the number of lines would stay the same, as they did going from .gff3 to 6-column .bed file), but I am quite inexperienced using these files.
Thanking you...Lindsay
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Jennifer Jackson <jen@bx.psu.edu> wrote:
Hello,
There are no tools directly on the public Galaxy site to transform a GFF3 dataset into a BED12 dataset. However, the Tool Shed has a repository called ' fml_gff3togtf' that includes a tool for this purpose, for use in a local install. The description is a bit bothersome in that it a slightly incorrect datatype statement, so be sure to test out the results. (the word "wiggle" has no place in this statement: " gff3_to_bed_converter.py: This tool converts gene transcript annotation from GFF3 format to UCSC wiggle 12 column BED format.")
http://getgalaxy.org
http://usegalaxy.org/toolshed
I see your post at Biostar, and it might be helpful to let you know what a BED12 file represents (plus I'll post this there, may help others):
http://www.biostars.org/p/85869/
A BED12 file describes the complete, often spliced, alignment of a sequence to a reference genome. This does not include minor base variation, it is a macro alignment. You can think of each of the blocks as being "exons", although there is no magic here - if the sequence or genome had quality problems, or significant variation (large insertion or deletion), that could cause the alignment to fragment as well.
Here is the data description:
http://wiki.galaxyproject.org/Learn/Datatypes#Bed
To see examples, at UCSC (genome.ucsc.edu), EST or mRNA track will have this as the primary table format. All gene track can also be in BED12 format, or in a related one, genePred:
http://genome.ucsc.edu/FAQ/FAQformat.html#format9
UCSC also has line-command utilities to convert between the formats, pre-compiled versions are here:
http://hgdownload.cse.ucsc.edu/downloads.html#source_downloads
Either way, you can convert the data, then load up into the public Galaxy (usegalaxy.org) and proceed with your analysis. BEDTools works well with BED12 files. There is definitely information loss attempting to transform BED6 -> BED12, as the global alignment is lost. And adjusting attributes such as score or name are often a preference, so you can alter these however you want, as long as the attribute formatting rules for the columns are followed.
Hopefully this helps,
Jen
Galaxy team
On 11/9/13 3:29 PM, lrutter @iastate.edu wrote:
Hello Galaxy:
I am trying overall to convert a .gff3 file to 12-column .bed file.
I first tried GFF-to-BED converter, but it gave a 6-column .bed file.
Then, I tried BED-to-bigBed converter by inputting the 6-column .bed file. I get an error "Unspecified genome build, click the pencil icon in the history item to set the genome build".
So, I click the pencil icon, and see 4 tabs at the top. I set the "Attributes" tab as in the attached image (Attributes.png).
But then, when I select "Convert Format", I am only seeing an option that outputs .bed12 file as "Convert Genomic Intervals to Strict BED12". I am a bit confused about this because I specified the input file as a .bed file (and not genomic intervals, unless I am misunderstanding something).
In any case, when I select "Convert Genomic Intervals to Strict BED12", I do get a .bed file with 12 columns. But I would like to ask if I may have lost information going from the .gff3 to .bed(6) to .bed(12)?
(I feel that scores were all set to "0" from .gff3 to .bed(6), and columns 10, 11, 12 (block counts, sizes, and starting positions) were all set to zero going from .bed(6) to .bed(12)).
If I am correct that there is information loss, is there a system in Galaxy to prevent this, and transfer as much information as possible from .gff3 to .bed(12)?
Thank you.L. Rutter
** Below is a head of my three files (the species is P. dominula):
.gff3 file
##gff-version 3##date Mon Nov 4 14:54:42 2013##source gbrowse gbgff gff3 dumperPdomScaf0001 maker gene 15 1963 . - . Name=PdomGene00025;ID=1;Dbxref=MAKER:maker-PdomScaf0001-snap-gene-0.274PdomScaf0001 maker mRNA 15 1963 . - . Name=PdomMRNA00025.1;Parent=1;ID=2;_QI=216%7C0%7C0.2%7C0.6%7C0.5%7C0.6%7C5%7C0%7C98;_eAED=0.43;_AED=0.43;Dbxref=MAKER:maker-PdomScaf0001-snap-gene-0.274-mRNA-1PdomScaf0001 maker exon 15 100 -0.094 - . Parent=2;ID=3PdomScaf0001 maker CDS 15 100 . - 2 Parent=2;ID=4PdomScaf0001 maker exon 223 300 21.8 - . Parent=2;ID=5PdomScaf0001 maker CDS 223 300 . - 2 Parent=2;ID=6PdomScaf0001 maker exon 717 765 22.4 - . Parent=2;ID=7
.bed(6) file
PdomScaf0001 14 1963 gene 0 -PdomScaf0001 14 1963 mRNA 0 -PdomScaf0001 14 100 exon 0 -PdomScaf0001 14 100 CDS 0 -PdomScaf0001 222 300 exon 0 -PdomScaf0001 222 300 CDS 0 -PdomScaf0001 716 765 exon 0 -PdomScaf0001 716 765 CDS 0 -PdomScaf0001 906 947 exon 0 -PdomScaf0001 906 947 CDS 0 -
.bed(12) file
PdomScaf0001 14 1963 gene 0 - 14 1963 0 0 , ,PdomScaf0001 14 1963 mRNA 0 - 14 1963 0 0 , ,PdomScaf0001 14 100 exon 0 - 14 100 0 0 , ,PdomScaf0001 14 100 CDS 0 - 14 100 0 0 , ,PdomScaf0001 222 300 exon 0 - 222 300 0 0 , ,PdomScaf0001 222 300 CDS 0 - 222 300 0 0 , ,PdomScaf0001 716 765 exon 0 - 716 765 0 0 , ,PdomScaf0001 716 765 CDS 0 - 716 765 0 0 , ,PdomScaf0001 906 947 exon 0 - 906 947 0 0 , ,PdomScaf0001 906 947 CDS 0 - 906 947 0 0 , ,
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