I've been setting up data libraries for researchers with their data as provided on USB drives, and the workflow is great, except that I'm doing something wrong with data library permissions and can't figure out just what. left bar, pick a library, and then from "library actions" select "edit permissions". On that "Manage library permissions on library xxxxxx" screen the four associated/not-associated sections have only the role that I initially associated with the data library on import, and it's always the sole item in associated, and 'not-associated' is empty. How do I add other roles to associated if not-associated is empty, and more importantly how do I let the researcher who has 'manage library permissions' pick new ones when "roles not associated" is empty for them too"? The workaround I've found is to remove every role from "roles associated" in "access library", which briefly makes every role in the system show in "roles not associated", and then I can multi-select and re-add the removed roles and the new ones. I gather from Greg's write-ups that the right usage includes smarter use of groups and non-user roles, but is it really the case that I can't associate new roles to a library's "access library" right w/o first removing all those already there? Also, is there a way for researchers to be able to add users to their group/non-user-role without and administrator having to do it for them? Thanks, -- Ry4an Brase 612-626-6575 University of Minnesota Supercomputing Institute for Advanced Computational Research http://www.msi.umn.edu