*Introductions and limit?*
Sonika Tyagi, Monash University, Melbourne
Harpreet Singh, Head of Bioinformatics, HMV Jalandhar, Punjab
To the Galaxy India planning group. I will let them introduce themselves
(I have known Sonika electronically for 3 years, but I don't think I have
ever met either of them in person.
And that puts us at 8 people on 4 continents, 6 of us with ties to India,
and two of us from the core Galaxy Project. *I suggest that 8 is a good
number for this core group and that we resist further increasing our size
And, I encourage everyone to introduce themselves as well. I'll start.
I help coordinate training and outreach for the Galaxy Project, and have
been doing this for 8 years. Before that I did the same for the GMOD
Project. I'm a computer person by training, and I first stumbled into
bioinformatics in 2000. *I have no particular knowledge of India.*
Now, I'll try to summarize what's been going on. (Please add in whatever I
*Online Community First*
We are planning to start as an online community first, with a Twitter
account (got it), mailing list (probably this one after we clear out these
early emails), and a Gitter channel (easy). We have not decided when to
launch / announce all this.
Anshu Bhardwaj (OSDD + more) has suggested linking any training with the
Skills India Program, and coordinating any launch we did with Nature India.
Anshu and Pratik Jagtap (Galaxy-P + more) have been discussing a possible
workshop-meeting in India in 2020, possibly at CSIR-IMTECH, and possibly
focusing on proteomics. We also have Glory Basumata at IIT Guwahati, so
that may be an option too. This event (or events) may be a good opportunity
/ time to launch the community. We could also launch a training program
and/or coordinate training efforts in India.
*Funding And Stability*
Funding assures that this effort continues, and that someone somewhere is
being paid to coordinate things. I don't know anything about funding in
India, but you all do. :-)
In the short term, Mo Heydarian (Galaxy + more) and I can probably convince
our funders to support participant scholarships for any events. We can
also try valiantly to get a Galaxy PI to a launch event (but we can't
No matter what the funding picture is, Mo and I will provide maximum
promotion, just like we do now for other communities
In the long term we may want to support a UseGalaxy.in platform. Kiran
Telukunta (U Freiburg + more) already owns the URL. :-) I argue that this
should be pursued last as it will need funding, maintenance, and staff.
Harpreet might be coming to INCOB where we will be discussing how to build
regional communities.* So this goal may end up moving faster than I expect
And, as always I have typed too much.
* Out breakout proposal was approved by INCOB. We may very well succeed in
starting an international regional community at INCOB.
One of the people I contacted about a Galaxy Australia / Asia / Pacific
community and platform was Sonika Tyagi
of Monash University in Melbourne. Sonika has been involved in Galaxy for
a while and has done workshops in India. She was involved in planning the
Galaxy AustralAsia Meeting in 2017.
Sonika can't make it to INCOB next month, *but she is interested in the
efforts of this group, and would like to be included in discussions.*
Sonika also suggested contacting Dr Harpreet Singh, Head of Bioinformatics
at HMV Jalandhar, Punjab, about INCOB *and about this group.*
What do people think? Should we bring In Sonika? Should we bring in Dr
I'll contact Dr. Singh about INCOB shortly, but I won't mention Galaxy
India, unless this group tells me to.
Just forwarding my previous email here.
Dr. Kiran K Telukunta
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---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Kiran K Telukunta <kiran.telukunta(a)indiayouth.info>
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 08:23
Subject: Re: Galaxy India Community
To: Dave Clements <clements(a)galaxyproject.org>
Cc: Pratik Jagtap <pjagtap(a)umn.edu>, Glory Basumata <
glorybasumata(a)hotmail.com>, Anshu Bhardwaj <anshub(a)osdd.net>, Mo Heydarian <
Thanks for the initiatives.
- About the twitter GxyIndia is really fine and it could be possible
that galaxy_bharat could get more attention in future. Probably we can keep
both as of now. So as of now please continue GxyIndia if we want we can
also switch to galaxy_bharat or keep both of them. I have registered
galaxy_bharat and ready to give it to others if required, just registered
in case if we want to change it. Or it can be incorporated into tweetdeck.
So please add @galaxy_bharat and also @telukir .
Graphics looks fine. We need to answer ourselves following questions to use
- If we are using colours for commercial purposes? If not then it is
fine. According to my understanding useGalaxy don't have commercial
purpose. However, to run the useGalaxy some money is required and
collecting such money will be commercial purpose or not, it is not
completely clear. This text could help us a bit: Please note that as per
the provisions of Section 3 of the Emblems and Names (Prevention of
Improper Use) Act, 1950, any colourable imitation of an “emblem” when used
for the purpose of any trade, business, calling or profession, or in the
title of any patent, or in any trade mark or design, without previous
permission of the Central Govt. or its authorised officer is prohibited and
the penalty for its violation is prescribed under Section 5 as a fine of up
to ₹ 5000. The word “emblem” includes the “Indian National Flag” as defined
in Section 2 read with the Schedule to the said Act. Thus, a colourable
imitation of the Indian National Flag cannot be used in logo for a business
without prior permission of the Central Government or its authorised
officer. This appears to be the legal position.
- As of now it is completely clear if we can use the colours, but the
graphic is not offensive but probably we need permission. I'll get to know
more about this, probably until then it is better not to use. I'll update
soon on this.
- Yes, for the list would be better to have one person as admin rather
than multiple persons, if required we can make more admins but initially it
is not required
- Yes, I'm fine with Github. But if any of you just want to put the text
into the document we can use this Google Doc
I/Dave can put into the github.
- Yes, having gitter channel would be very helpful.
I would like to host the usegalaxy.in in small scale because to talk with
people about it, it has to exist and that gives more motivation towards it.
I'm actively looking for short term small scale hosting options. Please let
me know if any of you can provide the hosting space. I could try to get
this ready for the Galaxy-P 2020 workshop and according to the workshop
requirements. Which would be a kind of starting point UseGalaxy instance.
Dr. Kiran K Telukunta
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On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 02:58, Dave Clements <clements(a)galaxyproject.org>
> Hi Pratik all,
> Thanks for following up. Please see my replies:
>> > If you want to tweet from that account then please send me your
>> Twitter ID
>> I'll add you once we settle on an account name.
>> Is @galaxy_in_india taken? Or is it too long? How does @galaxy_bhaarat
>> sound? @GxyIndia is fine too.
> @galaxy_in_india is soooo meta! (but would it be confusing?) I quite
> like @galaxy_bharat (one "a", right?), as it implies the creator of the
> account knows more about India than I do. :-)
> @galaxy_bharat is available. I think I can easily rename the @GxyIndia
> account that I have created.
> Also, please take a look at the graphics at https://twitter.com/GxyIndia.
> *Is it offensive to take the colours from the Indian flag?* Other ideas?
> *Folks, let me know what account name you prefer!*
> > Please let me know if you want to be a list admin
>> Yes. All copied on this mail can be list admins?
> There is no limit on the number of admins. It's just tedious to be one.
> I'll add you.
> > Otherwise, send me edits and I will apply them.
> I'll start on the hub edits tomorrow.
> > (4. Should we also create a Gitter Channel? Eventually?)
>> (Good idea!)
>> > I can say that the core Galaxy team will support this effort in every
>> way can.
>> Excellent - and thanks!
>> > Which leads us to the *long term*. There have been a bunch of great
>> ideas posted here. Now we need to prioritize them.
>> Anshu, we should start seriously thinking about a Galaxy-P workshop in
>> July/August 2020. We have some proteogenomics and metaproteomics workshops
>> in place and can add more from other team members.
>> We should also start looking for projects (funded / funding opportunities
>> for.../ etc.). There were at least two projects that we were approached
>> for, when I visited India, last (December 2018).
>> > Look for followup emails in the next day.
>> Thanks for keeping this rolling...
> Dave C
>> Pratik Jagtap,
>> Research Assistant Professor,
>> Department of Biochemistry, Molecular Biology, and Biophysics, University
>> of Minnesota.
>> *Office:* 7-136 MCB, 420 Washington Ave SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455
>> *Phone: *612-816-4232
>> *Email: *pjagtap(a)umn.edu
>> *Shipping address: *6-155 Jackson Hall, 321 Church Street SE,
>> Minneapolis, MN 55455
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 5:08 PM Dave Clements <clements(a)galaxyproject.org>
>>> Hi All,
>>> First, I apologise for the long delay in responding to responses. I
>>> always think things will be easier after GCC than they actually end up
>>> being. :-/ Thanks Pratik, for the poke.
>>> *Here's what I will do in the next day: (all are easy)*
>>> 1. Create a Twitter account
>>> @galaxy_india is already taken (those people are going to love us)
>>> @galaxyindia, @galaxyin, @galaxy_in are already taken.
>>> *@GxyIndia* is not taken. I will create that now.
>>> We can use Tweetdeck to give multiple access.
>>> If you want to tweet from that account then please send me your
>>> Twitter ID
>>> 2. Create a mailing list
>>> Please let me know if you want to be a list admin
>>> 3. Create a draft Galaxy-India web page presence on GalaxyProject.org.
>>> I can do this. If you have a GitHub account. then you can submit
>>> pull requests
>>> Otherwise, send me edits and I will apply them.
>>> (4. Should we also create a Gitter Channel? Eventually?)
>>> *Over the next few weeks* we should draft a community launch
>>> announcement, and then post it somewhere.
>>> I suggest the Galaxy News page, but it can be anywhere. And then we
>>> link to it and cross-post it everywhere we can think of.
>>> Alternatively, we can wait to announce until we have an event.
>>> Which leads us to the *long term*. There have been a bunch of great
>>> ideas posted here. Now we need to prioriitise them.
>>> I see Glory, Anshu, Kiran, and Pratik taking the lead, as you all
>>> understand the situation in India way better than Mo or I do. I an say
>>> that the core Galaxy team will support this effort in every way can. This
>>> includes a lot of promotion, and even sending team members to India. (Hmm,
>>> Nuwan is in Sri Lanka. It would be cheap to get him to events.) We can
>>> also provide scholarships / fellowships for travel and events.
>>> That's it for now. Look for followup emails in the next day.
>>> Dave C
>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 12:20 PM Glory Basumata <
>>> glorybasumata(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Dave and all,
>>>> First off please excuse me for the delay in response as I was traveling
>>>> outstation. I am eager and enthusiastic about the Galaxy India community
>>>> and would like to spearhead the development and growth of this community. I
>>>> believe many students and researchers could really benefit from this
>>>> program and would, in turn, help Galaxy expand its reach worldwide.
>>>> I like the idea of short term goal first to build the traction and
>>>> devise new ideas to engage Indian researchers, students; and train and
>>>> absorb them into the community.
>>>> I can manage the twitter handle for the Galaxy India Community and
>>>> route the traffic to the webpage within galaxyproject.org (so it's a
>>>> good idea to create a webpage). Gradually afterward, based on the
>>>> engagement and responses from the user, we can begin using the mailing list.
>>>> This is my thoughts for now. But to start Galaxy India community we
>>>> need to begin from somewhere and I believe twitter handle is a good way to
>>>> give it a start at least.
>>>> I look forward to hearing from everyone.
>>>> Yours sincerely,
>>>> Glory Basumata
>>>> IIT Guwahati
>>>> Email: glorybasumata(a)hotmail.com
>>>> *From:* Dave Clements <clements(a)galaxyproject.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 8, 2019 6:37 PM
>>>> *To:* Glory Basumata <glorybasumata(a)hotmail.com>; Anshu Bhardwaj <
>>>> anshub(a)osdd.net>; Kiran K Telukunta <kiran.telukunta(a)indiayouth.info>;
>>>> Pratik Jagtap <pjagtap(a)umn.edu>; Mo Heydarian <mheydarian(a)gmail.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Galaxy India Community
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> All of us discussed possibly launching a Galaxy India Community this
>>>> week. I would like to keep that conversation going and hopefully launch
>>>> this community.
>>>> Galaxy does not have an official process for launching a community. We
>>>> have several things we can do, and what we do depends on the community
>>>> *Short term Goals?*
>>>> What would the goals of the community be? At least to start with, I
>>>> think the goal is to connect Indians who are interested in Galaxy. It
>>>> would also be a way to let people know when something is going on in or
>>>> near India.
>>>> *Community Channels*
>>>> With those "community building" goals in mind, here are some thoughts
>>>> on how to do that, right now.
>>>> *Twitter*: I recommend we establish a Twitter account, and that
>>>> community and team members (me/Mo) be able to tweet from the account. We
>>>> do this for Galaxy UK and Australia.
>>>> *Mailing list*: We can easily support a Galaxy-India mailing list
>>>> hosted at galaxyproject.org. However, I am not sure if this is
>>>> worthwhile or not. We just shut down the Galaxy-UK and Galaxy-France
>>>> mailing lists because they weren't being used. What do people think?
>>>> *Web pages*: Galaxy UK and Galaxy Australia have web pages (but the
>>>> Galaxy UK don't get any attention). At minimum we can create a page for
>>>> the community on galaxyproject.org. Any ideas?
>>>> *Longer term Goals*
>>>> Events and services are two ways that we can help this community
>>>> thrive. However, both of these take planning, and significant time and
>>>> resources. I recommend keeping our eyes open for training opportunities,
>>>> and then seeing what we can make happen. There must be national and
>>>> regional bioinformatics meetings that we can propose training for.
>>>> That's a start. Discussion is ... required!
>>>> Dave C